>> i think, look, we're going to have to win some elections and get people up here in both chambers that are going to take this issue seriously. >> greta: and all parties. >> i think in our party-- everybody knows it's inevitable. the time will come when we have to deal with the issues and the sooner we deal with it, the better off we'll be. if we deal with them now we deal with them on terms. the longer we wait to save medicare, the more disruptive it's going to be, the more complicated it's going to be, if we act now, we can save medicare in a way that doesn't change it at all for people like my mom. >> greta: and why doesn't -- i mean, everyone knows it's getting worse and the long her you wait the bigger the problem, but the politicians push it down every three or four months. if everybody knows that why is there-- >> because to be quite frank, you've got elements in that party that refuses virtually any changes to the spending programs. >> does your party have any responsibility in this at all. >> our debt is a bipartisan debt no doubt about it. and if people want bipartisanship, th